Demokratische Präsidentschaftskandidatur 2020: Wochen der Entscheidung

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  • RE: Messen, gelesen?

    gruener (Luddit), 14.03.2020 02:19, Antwort auf #110
    Danke, der Artikel gibt wirklich Aufschluß, klärt aber nicht alles! Was auf Grund der in Frage kommenden Regeln auch gar nicht möglich ist... Foot in mouth

    etwas deplatziert und wahrlich nicht zum thema gehörend:

    mir gefällt die schreibweise "auf Grund". voll altbacken, aus der mode gekommen, aber irgendwie richtig gut. :-)

    ****

    zum eigentlcihen thema:

    immerhin gab es heute von bernie eine klare ansage - via mail:

    As the coronavirus crisis expands, now is the time for solidarity. We must fight with love and compassion for those most vulnerable to the effects of this pandemic.

    Add your name to support Bernie’s plan to fight the pandemic, and to support each other in this crisis, which includes:</a>

    • Free vaccines, when it is developed
    • Free emergency doctor visits for all
    • Paid family and medical leave for all workers
    • Expanded unemployment benefits
    • More funding for community health centers
    • A moratorium on evictions

    meist versendet das sanders-team kurze, knappe infos, diese ist ungewöhnlich lang und ausführlich - ich erlaube mir, sie in gänze wiederzugeben:

    Friends -

    In the last few days, we have seen the crisis of the coronavirus continue to grow exponentially.

    Let me be absolutely clear: in terms of potential deaths and the impact on our economy, the crisis we face from coronavirus is on the scale of a major war, and we must act accordingly.

    Nobody knows how many fatalities we may see, but they could equal or surpass the U.S. casualties we saw in World War II.

    It is an absolute moral imperative that our response — as a government, as a society, as business communities, and as individuals — meets the enormity of this crisis.

    As people work from home and are directed to quarantine, it will be easy to feel like we are in this alone, or that we must only worry about ourselves and let everyone else fend for themselves.

    That is a very dangerous mistake. First and foremost, we must remember that we are in this together.

    Now is the time for solidarity. We must fight with love and compassion for those most vulnerable to the effects of this pandemic.

    If our neighbor or co-worker gets sick, we have the potential to get sick. If our neighbors lose their jobs, then our local economies suffer, and we may lose our jobs. If doctors and nurses do not have the equipment and staffing capacity they need now, people we know and love may die.

    Unfortunately, in this time of international crisis, the current administration is largely incompetent, and its incompetence and recklessness have threatened the lives of many people.

    What we must do as a nation:

    Because President Trump is unable and unwilling to lead selflessly, we must immediately convene an emergency, bipartisan authority of experts to support and direct a response that is comprehensive, compassionate, and based first and foremost on science and fact.

    We must aggressively make certain that the public and private sectors are cooperating with each other. And we need national and state hotlines staffed with well-trained people who have the best information available.

    Among many questions, people need to know: what are the symptoms of coronavirus? When should I seek medical treatment? Where do I go for a test?

    The American people deserve transparency, something the Trump administration has fought day after day to stifle. We need daily information — clear, science-based information — from credible scientific voices, not politicians.

    And during this crisis, we must make sure we care for the communities most vulnerable to the health and economic pain that’s coming — those in nursing homes and rehabilitation facilities, those confined in immigration detention centers, those who are currently incarcerated, and all people regardless of immigration status.

    What we must do regarding health care:

    Unfortunately, the United States is at a severe disadvantage because unlike every other major country on earth, we do not guarantee health care as a human right. The result is that millions of people in this country cannot afford to go to a doctor, let alone pay for a coronavirus test. So while we work to pass a Medicare for All single-payer system, the United States government must be clear that in the midst of this emergency, that everyone in our country — regardless of income or where they live — must be able to get all of the health care they need without cost.

    Obviously, when a vaccine or other effective treatment is developed, it must be free of charge.

    We cannot live in a nation where if you have the money you get the treatment you need to survive, but if you’re working class or poor you get to the end of the line. That would be morally unacceptable.

    Further, we need emergency funding right now for paid family and medical leave. Anyone who is sick should be able to stay home during this emergency, and receive their paycheck.

    At a time when half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck, when they need to go to work in order to take care of their family, we do not want to see people going to work who are sick and can spread the coronavirus.

    We also need an immediate expansion of community health centers in this country so that every American will have access to a nearby healthcare facility.

    We need greatly to expand our primary health care capabilities in this country and that includes expanding community health care centers.

    We need to determine the status of our testing and processing for the coronavirus. The government must respond aggressively to make certain that we in fact do have the latest and most effective test available, and the quickest means of processing those tests.

    There are other countries around the world who are doing better than we are in that regard. We should be learning from them.

    No one disputes that there is a major shortage of ICU units and ventilators that are needed to respond to this crisis. The federal government must work aggressively with the private sector to make sure that this equipment is available to hospitals and the rest of the medical community.

    Our current healthcare system does not have the doctors and nurses we currently need. We are understaffed. During this crisis, we need to mobilize medical residents, retired medical professionals, and other medical personnel to help us deal with this crisis.

    We need to make sure that doctors, nurses and medical professionals have the instructions and personal protective equipment that they need.

    This is not only because we care about the well-being of medical professionals, but if they go down, then our capability to respond to this crisis is significantly diminished.

    The pharmaceutical industry must be told in no uncertain terms that the medicines that they manufacture for this crisis will be sold at cost. This is not the time for profiteering or price gouging.

    Addressing this economic crisis:

    The coronavirus is already causing a global economic meltdown, which is impacting people throughout the world and in our own country, and it is especially dangerous for low income and working families the most. People who today, before the crisis, were struggling economically.

    Instead of providing more tax breaks to the top one percent and large corporations, we need to provide economic assistance to the elderly — and I worry very much about elderly people in this country today, many of whom are isolated and many of whom do not have a lot of money.

    We need to worry about those who are already sick. We need to worry about working families with children, people with disabilities, the homeless and all those who are vulnerable.

    We need to provide emergency unemployment assistance to anyone who loses their job through no fault of their own.

    Right now, 23 percent of those who are eligible to receive unemployment compensation do not receive it.

    Under our proposal, everyone who loses a job must qualify for unemployment compensation at least 100 percent of their prior salary with a cap of $1,150 a week or $60,000 a year.

    In addition, those who depend on tips – and the restaurant industry is suffering very much from the meltdown – gig workers, domestic workers, and independent contractors shall also qualify for unemployment insurance to make up for the income that they lose during this crisis.

    We need to make sure that the elderly, people with disabilities and families with children have access to nutritious food. That means expanding the Meals on Wheels program, the school lunch program and SNAP so that no one goes hungry during this crisis and everyone who cannot leave their home can receive nutritious meals delivered directly to where they live.

    We need also in this economic crisis to place an immediate moratorium on evictions, foreclosures, and on utility shut-offs so that no one loses their home during this crisis and that everyone has access to clean water, electricity, heat and air conditioning.

    We need to construct emergency homeless shelters to make sure that the homeless, survivors of domestic violence and college students quarantined off campus are able to receive the shelter, the healthcare and the nutrition they need.

    We need to provide emergency lending to small and medium sized businesses to cover payroll, new construction of manufacturing facilities, and production of emergency supplies such as masks and ventilators.


    Here is the bottom line. When we are dealing with this crisis, we need to listen to the scientists, to the researchers, to the medical folks, not politicians.

    We need an emergency response to this crisis and we need it now.

    We need more doctors and nurses in underserved areas.

    We need to make sure that workers who lose their jobs in this crisis receive the unemployment assistance they need.

    And in this moment, we need to make sure that in the future after this crisis is behind us, we build a health care system that makes sure that every person in this country is guaranteed the health care that they need.

    Please add your name to mine to say that you agree we must take action to support each other, to ensure everyone has the health care and economic support they need during this coronavirus crisis.</a>

    We must remember that we are in this together. Thank you for your support of these ideas, and of our campaign.

    In solidarity,

    Bernie Sanders

    • RE: Messen, gelesen?

      gruener (Luddit), 14.03.2020 03:50, Antwort auf #111

      nachtrag:

      ich würde bernie ja anraten... begib dich freiwillig in eine mind. einmonatige quarantäne. die gegenseite hat das problem/die gefahr noch nicht wirklich realisiert, womit die chance nicht unrealistisch ist, dass der mitbewerber - nicht zuletzt aufgrund von sogenannten vorerkrankungen - so urplötzlich wie unerwartet aus dem rennen ausscheiden muss.

    • RE: Messen, gelesen?

      drui (MdPB), 14.03.2020 12:40, Antwort auf #112

      ich würde bernie ja anraten... begib dich freiwillig in eine mind. einmonatige quarantäne. die gegenseite hat das problem/die gefahr noch nicht wirklich realisiert, womit die chance nicht unrealistisch ist, dass der mitbewerber - nicht zuletzt aufgrund von sogenannten vorerkrankungen - so urplötzlich wie unerwartet aus dem rennen ausscheiden muss.

      Kommt darauf, wen Du als Mitbewerber meinst. Bei Trump bin ich 100%ig überzeugt, dass er infiziert ist. Alle um ihn herum werden positiv getestet oder sind in Quarantäne. Nur leider bricht es bei ihm nicht (schwer) aus. Nützlich ist das Virus dennoch, denn es hat Trumps volksverhetzende Ralleys vorerst auf Eis gelegt:

      https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/13/donald-trump-coronavirus-crowd s-129048

    • RE: Messen, gelesen?

      SeppH (!), 14.03.2020 21:04, Antwort auf #113
      Bei Trump bin ich 100%ig überzeugt, dass er infiziert ist. Alle um ihn herum werden positiv getestet oder sind in Quarantäne. Nur leider bricht es bei ihm nicht (schwer) aus.

      Was, hoffst du, bekommt er?

    • RE: Messen, gelesen?

      gruener (Luddit), 15.03.2020 22:52, Antwort auf #114
      Bei Trump bin ich 100%ig überzeugt, dass er infiziert ist. Alle um ihn herum werden positiv getestet oder sind in Quarantäne. Nur leider bricht es bei ihm nicht (schwer) aus.

      Was, hoffst du, bekommt er?

      im günstigsten falle four more years.

    • Das - letzte? - Duell

      Wanli, 16.03.2020 15:02, Antwort auf #115

      Gestern die Fernsehdebatte zwischen Joe und Bernie - anders als bisher also lediglich mit zwei Teilnehmern. Angesichts von Bidens gelegentlicher Tendenz, abwesend zu wirken oder sich unverständlich zu äußern, war die Spannung recht groß, denn anders als bisher würde keiner der beiden Diskutanten sich verstecken können.

      Und siehe da: Joe war wohl gar nicht schlecht - in dieser gestrigen Verfassung wäre er dem Donald wohl locker gewachsen.

      Biden outperformed expectations. In past debates, he’d seemed hesitant or out of it — leading many pundits, including a lot of Sanders supporters, to publicly speculate about his mental acuity. Lots of people thought, as a result, that a one-on-one debate, where Biden would have to talk all night, would only highlight that vulnerability.

      That’s not what happened, though. Biden was about as sharp as he’s been throughout the entire primary.

      He projected confidence and competence on the coronavirus pandemic, arguably beating Bernie on points when it came to Medicare-for-all’s relevance to the crisis. He got in some solid hits on Sanders’s record, particularly on guns and immigration, and offered up one of the night’s most memorable lines about the primary during an exchange on campaign finance: “I didn’t have any money and I still won.”

      https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/15/21181006/democratic-debate-mar ch-winner-who-won-coronavirus-biden

      Biden was sometimes good, sometimes very good, and generally came off as presidential. He was at his best in the first half hour of the debate (mostly COVID-19 talk) and in the last half hour (electability and closing statements). Most importantly, though he was occasionally a little bit shaky, he didn't have any major gaffes, or even any moderate gaffes.

      https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Mar16.html#item-2

      Obwohl Biden tatsächlich ankündigte, Initiativen von Sanders und Warren in sein Wahlprogramm aufzunehmen, setzten beide doch erwartbar unterschiedliche Schwerpunkte.

      But it was striking to hear the closing messages from the candidates about the coronavirus. Sanders said that the coronavirus crisis is a call to dramatically shift the system, a “time to ask how we got to where we are” and make broader changes. Biden instead went personal — saying he can’t imagine how fearful people must be. It’s a pretty good encapsulation of the differences between the two candidates. And obviously, one of those styles/strategies seems to have won over Democratic voters this year.

      https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/biden-sanders-debate/#267621

      Vermutlich wird die Coronakrise beiden noch reichlich Gelegenheit geben, sich voneinander, aber vor allem natürlich auch vom POTUS abzugrenzen - und sowohl Joe als auch Bernie dürften den Vergleich mit Drumpf momentan klar für sich entscheiden.

    • RE: Das - letzte? - Duell

      drui (MdPB), 16.03.2020 15:40, Antwort auf #116

      Vermutlich wird die Coronakrise beiden noch reichlich Gelegenheit geben, sich voneinander, aber vor allem natürlich auch vom POTUS abzugrenzen - und sowohl Joe als auch Bernie dürften den Vergleich mit Drumpf momentan klar für sich entscheiden.

      Wobei das in der polarisierten Wählerschaft kaum etwas bringt. Die Mehrheit der Dems hat Angst vor Corona, glaubt an die Wissenschaft und hält Trumps Vorgehen für falsch. Die Mehrheit der Republikaner sieht sich nicht betroffen, hält den Hype für antiamerikanische Propaganda und findet Trumps Umgang damit einfach knorke.

      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/poll-voters-coronavirus-outbreak-130033

      Das könnte sich natürlich noch ändern, wenn die Toten in den USA in die Tausende oder Zigtausende gehen. Und völlig unrealistisch ist das nicht, weil das amerikanische Gesundheitssystem schlechter vorbereitet ist als Italien:

      Keine Lohnfortzahlung im Krankheitsfall, keine Begleichung der Test- oder Quarantänekosten, geringe Abdeckung der Bevölkerung, sehr hohe Kosten, wenig Krankhausbetten, wenig Krankenhauspersonal, hohe Auslastung der Krankenhäuser mit chronisch Kranken, weil die ambulante Versorgung noch schlechter ist.

      https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/16/21173766/coronavirus-covid-19- us-cases-health-care-system

    • Survival of the Fittest

      Wanli, 16.03.2020 17:21, Antwort auf #117

      Wobei das in der polarisierten Wählerschaft kaum etwas bringt. Die Mehrheit der Dems hat Angst vor Corona, glaubt an die Wissenschaft und hält Trumps Vorgehen für falsch. Die Mehrheit der Republikaner sieht sich nicht betroffen, hält den Hype für antiamerikanische Propaganda und findet Trumps Umgang damit einfach knorke.

      Die Umfragezahlen sprechen schon eine klare Sprache:

      Sixty-eight percent of Democratic voters are worried that an immediate family member might catch the coronavirus, compared with just 40 percent of Republicans who agree. Fifty-six percent of Democrats believe their day-to-day lives will change in a major way, versus only 26 percent of Republicans.

      And 79 percent of Democrats say the worst is yet to come [the same view held by epidemiologists] versus just 40 percent of Republicans who hold the same opinion.

      Forty-seven percent of all voters say they've stopped or plan to stop attending large public gatherings, which includes 61 percent of Democratic respondents but just 30 percent of Republicans. What's more, 36 percent say they've canceled or plan to cancel travel, which includes 47 percent of Democrats but just 23 percent of Republicans.

      And 26 percent say they've stopped or plan to stop eating out at restaurants, which includes 36 percent of Democrats but only 12 percent of Republicans.

      https://www.salon.com/2020/03/16/can-a-pandemic-shake-the-faith-of-trumps-follow ers-dont-count-on-it/

      Ich formuliere das mal ganz brutal: Am Ende werden die aussortiert, die es nicht schaffen, sich an ihre Umwelt anzupassen (sehr frei nach Darwin). Wenn Drumpfs Basis, angestachelt von Fox News, diversen republikanischen Politikern und natürlich dem Don das Virus für einen Hoax hält, dann werden seine Fans ihm demnächst auch überdurchschnittlich oft zum Opfer fallen. Und Anhänger der Republikaner sind im Schnitt eh älter als Demokraten.

      Ist schon ein Treppenwitz, dass die vermeintliche Lügenpresse und demokratische PolitikerInnen ihr Bestes tun, Drumpfs Basis am Leben zu halten, während ihr Idol das Gegenteil zu bezwecken scheint. Das passende Schicksal einer letztlich ja nihilistischen Bewegung.

      Natürlich darf man auch nicht vergessen: Die irre Basis allein reicht nicht für einen Wahlsieg im November, auch in seiner Wählerschaft von 2016 gibt es viele, die sich zurücksehnen werden nach den Jahren unaufgeregt-kompetenter Regierung unter Obama. Da wird die GOP schon ihr Meisterstück in Sachen Voter Suppression abliefern müssen, um den Don im kommenden Herbst konkurrenzfähig zu halten.

      EDIT

      Im November werden auch Drumpfs erratische Aussagen zur Krise eine Rolle spielen und man wird sie kontrastieren mit dem, was Joe Biden bereits Ende Januar geäußert hatte:

      https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/27/coronavirus-donald-trump-made-u s-less-prepared-joe-biden-column/4581710002/

    • (Doch keine) Unsicherheit in Ohio / Klarheit in Washington

      Wanli, 17.03.2020 10:58, Antwort auf #118

      Was geschieht heute in Ohio? Der dortige Gouverneur hat angeordnet, die Vorwahlen auf Juni zu verschieben, gestern Abend ordnete ein Richter allerdings an, sie sollten wie geplant stattfinden.

      The late Monday decision may throw the logistics of the election into turmoil as well — per a local reporter, some poll workers have already been told not to show up to work.

      https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ohio-dewine-delay-primary-2020-elections

      Wenn die heutigen Vorwahlen in etwa so ausgehen, wie das unsere Märkte prognostizieren, dann wäre Bidens Vorsprung praktisch uneinholbar; dann MUSS Bernie zurückziehen, sodass man den zunehmend Leib und Leben gefährdenden Wahlprozess abbrechen kann. Zwingen kann und will man den Vermonter sicher nicht, da wäre dann mal sein Verantwortungsgefühl gefragt.

      EDIT

      Der Staat ist wohl noch nicht zu hundert Prozent ausgezählt, aber Joe Biden hat das Primary in Washington gewonnen. Washington liegt an der sehr progressiven Westküste, ist bei Themen wie Klimaschutz oder Mindestlohn Vorreiter, vor vier Jahren konnte Bernie hier dementsprechend ein echtes Ausrufezeichen setzen. Das Signal der Niederlage sollte klar sein.

      Biden’s gains from Washington — which has 89 pledged delegates — are notable, in part because the state was seen as one that could give Sanders a much-needed boost. [...]

      “Here we are, a really blue state, very progressive, very supportive of Bernie four years ago,” former Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire, a Biden supporter, told Politico. “So, if Bernie Sanders can’t win, and win big here, I think that is a really troubling message for the campaign for Bernie Sanders.”

      https://www.vox.com/2020/3/16/21171426/washington-primary-winner-joe-biden

      Aber in Ohio scheint doch klar zu sein, was heute geschieht: Es wird nicht gewählt. In Reaktion auf das erwähnte Gerichtsurteil erklärte man dort den Gesundheitsnotstand und sagte die Vorwahlen ab.

      “We can’t tell people it’s in their best interest to stay home and at the same time tell people to go vote,” DeWine said. He added that Ohio Secretary of State Frank LeRose would seek a remedy through the courts to figure out “voting options” for those who still wanted to participate in the primary. At this point, it’s unclear when the primary would be rescheduled.

      https://www.vox.com/2020/3/16/21181786/ohio-primary-postponed-coronavirus-june-m ike-dewine

      EDIT 2

      Ich denke, die Gesundheitsbedenken angesichts von Wahlen sind durchaus nachvollziehbar; man munkelt allerdings, die Entscheidung von Ohios Gouverneur, die heutigen Wahlen auf unbestimmte Zeit zu verschieben, habe auch eine parteipolitische Komponente.

      DeWine is an extremely partisan Republican and like just about all Republicans, would prefer to have Donald Trump face Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) in November, rather than having him face Joe Biden. If Biden were to crush Sanders in four big states today, that would pretty much end Sanders' hopes for stopping Biden. But if Biden won only three states (because Ohio didn't vote today), it wouldn't be quite as bad for Sanders, especially since Ohio is in the Midwest and the Midwest will be a big battleground. A commanding Biden victory in a big Midwestern state is not something DeWine wants.

      https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Mar17.html#item-3

    • Entscheidung

      Wanli, 18.03.2020 08:54, Antwort auf #119

      Drei Staaten haben gewählt, dreimal siegte Biden, im Norden, Südwesten, Südosten. Das war's also jetzt wirklich. Joe versucht die Partei dementsprechend zu einen:

      Biden said he and Sanders "may disagree on tactics, but we share a common mission" on issues like health care, income inequality and climate change.
      "Sen. Sanders and his supporters have brought a remarkable passion and tenacity to all of these issues, and together they have shifted the fundamental conversation in this country," Biden said.
      "So let me say especially to the young voters who have been inspired by Sen. Sanders: I hear you. I know what's at stake. I know what we have to do. Our goal as a campaign and my goal as a candidate for president is to unify this party, and then to unify the nation."
      The speech was Biden's most significant olive branch to Sanders and his supporters yet. It was both magnanimous and a message that reflected the former vice president's current political reality: His lack of support from young voters is worrying for Democrats. Changing that reality would be easier with Sanders' help.

      https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/democratic-primaries-march-17-takeaw ays/index.html

      EDIT

      Kommentar eines Journalisten (und Sanders-Anhängers) - in Gänze lesenswert, hier nur der Ausblick:

      All in all, I am deeply worried about the country but more optimistic than I was a month ago about the Democrats replacing Trump and holding the House.  With Steve Bullock running in Montana, the Democrats even have a chance of getting to 50 or more Senate seats.  As a presidential candidate, Biden could win back enough of the white-working class votes to defeat Trump and prevent the Democrats from becoming the party of upscale metro dwellers and downscale minorities. Just as you don’t want a Republican party that writes off African-American voters, you don’t want a Democratic party that writes off whites from deindustrialized America as “deplorables.”

      If Biden wins, he will prevent the disaster of a second Trump term: the sheer violence it could unleash in the country, the bilious incompetence of the man, the damage he can do to the courts, the government, the air we breathe.  But I suspect Biden will primarily be a placeholder for the future.  He’ll put his finger in the dike for four years.

      The next generation of Democrats will have to figure out how to build a majority party. They will have to figure out how to make capitalism serve the national interest, and if that meets resistance, as it seems to have done in parts of the healthcare industry, replace private with public ownership and control. If they get a chance to do that,  they can thank Biden for getting rid of Trump.  But they can also thank Bernie Sanders for pointing the way forward.

      https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/final-thoughts-on-the-democratic-primaries- and-whats-ahead

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